Episode 79 - Meeting Your Spiritual Team with Lorraine Stone

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Hello, and welcome to this week's Choosing Happy podcast.

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I'm Heather Masters, and

we're still in Woo space.

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This week, we have a wonderful interview

with a good friend, Lorraine Stone,

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who is a coach and teacher who'll help

you open up to your psychic abilities.

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And she also teaches you how to

not just contact, but how to work

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with your own spiritual team.

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All this and more in this

week's Choosing Happy Podcast.

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Hello and welcome to the

Choosing Happy podcast.

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I'm your host Heather Masters and

today I have the greatest pleasure

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of chatting with Lorraine Stone.

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Now Lorraine is a coach and a

teacher who will help you open

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up to your psychic abilities and

connect with your spiritual team.

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Hello and welcome, Lorraine.

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Oh, hi, Heather.

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Thanks for having me.

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Oh, you're welcome.

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Can you begin by telling us a little

bit about yourself and your own journey

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to opening up to your psychic abilities

and connecting with your spiritual team?

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Um, well, it's been a long, long journey.

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a lot of years of learning

my, um, psychic abilities and

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getting in tune with my guides.

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So it's been a process of learning

through, um, various courses,

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various, I mean, using your own

intuition, connecting to yourself.

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Um, I started with Reiki healer

and then Theta and then many

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other courses along the way.

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Um, but really it's about connecting to

the, the true you from what's within you.

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Um, so your true source energy, your

true divine, um, universal God source

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energy, whatever you want to talk

about it, whichever words work for you.

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Um, but yeah, so it's been about,

I think, 20 to 30 years of, um,

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journey and through my spiritual, uh,

having my spiritual growth really.

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It never ends.

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It's a quest that I've always been on.

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Um, and eventually when you can ask at any

point to connect to your guardian angels,

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spirit guides, and they will always

make their known, their presence known.

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Even if at first you can't.

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um, connect to them.

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Uh, they'll always make sure they

find a way to let you feel it.

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You know, the more you're open to it, the

more, the calmer you are, the more they

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can show you that they're beside you.

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Does that make sense?

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Yeah, yeah.

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So, like, how did you start your journey?

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What was the trigger for you going into

this field, or opening to, you know?

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I think it, I've always known

there's more than just, you know,

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I always known that I'm a spiritual

being in a human existence.

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Um, so I've always known that and I

always had, uh, a yearning to learn more.

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The biggest trigger was when I was 25.

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Um, my mom passed.

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I dealt with my husband, had two

little kids, and I think I was

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always trying to find my mom.

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Really?

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. I think, you know, you go on

a journey, you lose somebody.

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You think, well, you

know, they're not gone.

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They're not, they're somewhere.

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The spirit doesn't die.

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We don't die.

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Our spiritual selves never die.

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So I think I started searching and

thinking, you know, they're there

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somewhere, just in a different veil, a

different space where we can't see them.

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So I think that was the biggest

trigger, you know, starting out on my

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journey with two little kids all by

myself and just having lost my mum.

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It was like, okay, I need to, I

need to, investigate this further.

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And then through numerous surgeries,

I became, um, I had back surgery,

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um, and more muscular at the back.

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So, and I had a reiki healing

and it's like a light bulb went

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off in the center of my mind.

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It was like I could see this beam

of light as she was doing this reiki

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healing, which was another big trigger.

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And she said, well, have you

still got this feeling that

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something's wakened in you?

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Come back in a year and I'll teach you.

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So I did all my 3, and it was just like,

it was just like pulling me, you know.

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And then I got invited to the, to, um,

introduction day and it was another

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pull, gotta do it, gotta do it.

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And then become a teacher,

gotta do it, gotta do it.

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10 years of teaching and then it's

like, well, you know, you develop your

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own things, you develop your own way of

working with your own divine connection.

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So getting to meet your teams, your

guides, it's all the one thing,

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some people you can identify with

each individual one or you can

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connect to them as a whole, they'll

all show up wherever you need.

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I've also done trans mentorship for a

year and it's all about the energy's

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all inside of you and you can connect

to your guides around you and they will

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show up how you need them to show up.

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But it's all connected to the one

consciousness as we know, so I think

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that's my biggest trigger and that was

sort of my basic journey, but there's

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a few a lot more courses on the way and

You know having to always work alongside

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my spiritual work but you never stop

growing and learning and becoming more

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and Being in a deep connection with

your own guides and your own truth.

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So last few years have been obviously very

And it does feel like there's a greater

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pull for people to connect and to, as

you say, remember who they are and really

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connect with that source within them.

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Um, have you found there are more

people coming to you for help or

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are you noticing anything different?

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I feel like there is, there is definitely

more people It's definitely been a pull

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towards, you know, what is this life

about or what are we doing here, you know.

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Um, it's definitely a pull for people

to having the questions now, like,

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well, there's more to life, you know.

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Some people think we're human to humans,

our minds rule us and our bodies are

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here and when they die, they die.

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You know, there is more sense

of questioning, even my great

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nieces and nephews and my

grandchildren are questioning me

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saying, what about past lives?

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What about, what about,

where was I before?

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You know, you get children actually

come in, so I think there's a younger

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generation that's got more thirst for

spiritual knowledge, even if it's not the

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older generation, um, because we're not

our mind, we're not our body, the things.

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We don't take anything with us,

but our soul and our experiences,

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that's what we pass over with.

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So I find there's a lot of younger

generations, you know, that are,

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phone me up and say, Oh, Auntie

Lowell, that's what they call me.

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Help me, my friend's got

negativity or an attachment or, um.

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So I've found it's a lot in the younger

generation, but equally there's a lot of

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mature people thinking that maybe there's

more to life because I think when you're

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in the rat race of life you grow up,

you have your kids or you have a career,

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whichever you choose, and you just get

wrapped up in the cycle of life, but then

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there's sometimes you sit back and think.

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You know, or trauma.

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Sometimes it's mainly a trauma that brings

you to a point of, there's got to be more.

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Why is this, or why is

this repeating pattern?

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Why have I done this already?

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And why do I keep churning

the same old stories out?

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Why do I keep repeating

the same old patterns?

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So I think that's when people are coming.

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And that's what I'm noticing is

when, when you finally get to that

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stage of either repeating patterns

or, you know, another trauma or,

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It's like, okay, they do come.

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So I think COVID brought a lot of, you

know, people at home a lot, weren't there?

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That caused a lot of stress for people.

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But it's when you step back

from the stress and you sort

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of think, it's them all.

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It's them all and just what we are.

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Yeah.

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It's interesting that

you mentioned trauma.

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Um, It's just something that I found

through talking with people that rather

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than, you know, we often think of trauma

as a really bad thing, but it does

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seem to be a method for awakening in

one way or another, whether it's, you

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know, Opening just to meaning in life

or your purpose in life or whether it's

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the whole spiritual journey as well.

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Trauma seems to be a real

big trigger for that.

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Um, but do you agree?

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Do you find that?

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Oh, totally agree.

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I think when spirit, you know, we

learn and you had this conversation the

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other day, it's even dreamt about it.

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It was like, I dreamt of this big

trauma I had and I was like, Oh no!

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What's going to happen and it's

like you learn quicker from trauma.

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It's like when I fought in my dream,

this is really a terrible experience that

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I've just had because of my fault and my

trauma was something I created myself.

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And if I look at the consequences of that,

but then I learned something from that

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dream, you know, but that was a dream.

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We don't all get traumas for our dreams.

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But if you think about any life

experiences you've had, the

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biggest change comes, the quickest

learning comes from trauma.

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Because it smacks you in the

face and it is so devastating

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or so hurtful or whatever.

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that it makes you stand up and look.

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You know, we, you know, we could ask

to have, and we could and we should

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all ask, which I did after my dream

was, you know, can I start learning

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through positive experiences please?

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Um, but we do learn quicker and if spirit

are trying to get your attention within

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your true self, your true spirit, the,

you know, the one who's manifested as

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you into the human, if they're trying

to get your attention to get you back

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on your spiritual path or connect

you back to your source energy, if

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they can't do it, In the kindest way,

they're going to do it in a drastic way.

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Because it's only drastic to us as a

human, it's not drastic to us as a spirit.

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Because everything, if you think

about the scenario of everything is

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happening for us, it's like, what is

it Why did our true self create that

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scenario for us to learn through?

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You know, and the only ability

we have to change any scenario

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is to take responsibility for it.

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So, yes, I think trauma

teaches us quicker.

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And sometimes we just don't listen

to the kindly, kindly, look, I'm

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spirit over here, come and say hello.

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Or I'm spirit in here

and you never notice.

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That spirit in your, in a, in

your heart center where spirit is?

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Um, I think trauma does, you know,

when you look back at trauma,

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you may have lost your job.

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You may have lost your home, but

then where did you end up after that?

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If you can reflect backwards at some

of your previous traumas, what, what

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was the gift of that trauma at the end?

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Yeah, it, it's like, um.

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Lessons, like, like you said earlier

about patterns, if we keep repeating

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the pattern at some point it's going to

be a trauma because we're not learning

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whatever the pattern's trying to teach us.

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Exactly.

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Yeah.

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And it's like, Oh, no,

I've done that already.

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Do you ever do that?

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You go, No, that one.

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Oh, I've just done this.

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Why am I doing it again?

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What didn't I learn?

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And it's like, Please tell me

what I didn't learn, you know?

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So how do you, um, connect in

with your spiritual team, um, in,

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in terms of your own experience?

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How, how have you, how did you begin

working with your spiritual team?

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And how do you, what's kind of

the process you go through with

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your clients to teach that?

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Um, well for me when I began doing

it I'd have a process of connecting

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to the divine source and asking for

that connection and then asking spirit

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guides to show up so I could sense them.

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So I'd always ask for a calling card so if

I ask for a sense that they're with me now

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they'll give me a warm or a touch on the

shoulder so you can get a sense of their,

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but as I've developed now I can just go to

my guides, you know, walk down the street

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with me, come Moment with me but more

the divine doesn't it's all connected.

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It's the same thing So it's like

opening up the connection to them

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and and when you do that even just by

setting the intention to have Opening

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your heart and allowing the divine or

the true self to flow out, you have a

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much better experience even shopping,

watching TV, doing your housework.

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You know, you can bring that into

every, every moment without any um,

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I'm sorry, without any um, issues at all.

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And um, But when I'm doing

it with my clients, again,

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I connect to my, um, guide.

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I ask, obviously, I do a scan of

the person with permission only,

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obviously, to see what blocks they

may have, and also to understand where

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the client is from their perspective.

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So, once I can understand the

client a bit more, um, then I can

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bring in the guides and ask them

to get a sense for themselves.

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So, I would ask the guides

to give a calling card, a

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signal to the, to my client.

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So they knew that they were connected

and I wouldn't, we'd keep going

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until there was at least a connection

to the, the connection is always

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there, but I would need my client

to feel it, if that makes sense.

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Yeah.

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So they're more aware of it.

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Yes.

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So I would connect to the divine.

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I would ask their true self, their

spirit guides to come forward, um,

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and to give that client a calling

card that they could recognize.

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It's a light.

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Feeling a warmth, maybe see

them in their third eye.

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Maybe just, um, a touch on the

shoulder, just anything that

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they could recognize with.

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So when working with guys, um, is there

kind of a, a frustration with, with them?

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spiritual team that sometimes

they can't get through?

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Or are you, um, I mean, I know

they're always there, but is there

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kind of rules around interaction

and how much they can do to, to

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support you when you're not aware?

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I think they're, I think the biggest

block is ourselves, where we don't ask.

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So if you ask the angels or guides

or true self to help with any

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situation, it's going to try and help.

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So, or they are going to help.

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Um, And I think the frustration

is us, not through them.

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They will, they will be

there on hand to help.

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They'll steer you in the right direction.

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They will do everything they can

to get you to do the right, to

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take the right course of action.

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There's no frustration on the

guide's side in my experience.

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My, my understanding is because you're

exactly where you're meant to be.

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You're perfect in the way you are

right now, um, and if you want to get

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somewhere or do something, they're

always supporting you for the highest

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best of your learning and your growth.

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Right.

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So providing that highest perspective

is always there, you know, it's

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only us that get frustrated.

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Ah, why are you not helping me or I

can't see you or I can't feel you.

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That's our frustration, not

the guide's frustration.

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Right.

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And the trick is to always

ask them to support.

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Remembering you might think you know

the answer is the best thing for you,

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but actually the actual answer might

not be what you expect because the

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guides have a higher perspective.

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Yeah.

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That's something about

manifesting, isn't it?

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It's about being as detailed as

possible, but then letting go of any

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expectation because the universal source

might have something better for you.

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Yes, don't, don't get caught on

the outcome because, um, yes, it

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might be completely different.

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I remember a scenario when I was buying

a house and everything was getting in

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my way and I shouldn't have bought the

house but sheer determination and will to

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buy the house only to realize on the day

that I signed the contract is it wasn't

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the best move for me to have the house.

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I thought I needed to end the

relationship with the person that

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I, I'm like, oh, the university

tried to tell me, but through sheer

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determination and will, I thought, okay,

well, it's giving you enough chances.

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Let it go.

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But anyway, so yeah, if things are

flowing, I find you're in the flow of the

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universe, you're doing the right things.

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And if things start to go wrong,

maybe there's a better path.

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That's a, an, an interesting

concept because it's one that I

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know that I've struggled with.

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Sometimes I've believed that if things

are going wrong, could be the I just

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haven't found the right path through and,

you know, is this a challenge or a lesson

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from the universe that, you know, I should

still keep going, but there's a different

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way to do it, for instance, or is it just

give up and go do something different?

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And I find that one's quite challenging

and, um, how would you work with that?

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How do you?

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I think when I'm trying to push

something uphill, I think, and

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it's not going uphill, you know.

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I think I stop, I think the message has

always been, how do you find your joy?

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What it's, when you're doing things

that makes you joyous, it's the

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right course of action for you.

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Even if it's nicking and not even looking

at what you're trying to push uphill.

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So when things flow, it's

because you're in line with

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what your spiritual journey is.

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And if you really think you need to

push that thing up the hill, then

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I would sit and meditate on it.

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If it's really going badly, just not

have it again, not have an expectation

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of the answer, but just go quiet.

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Just go, okay, well I'll leave

it up to the divine or my guides

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until I'm inspired to take action.

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Nice.

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Because it's through inspiration that the

guides are talking through us and it's

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through joy that they're talking to us.

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It's through, so you're always

being answered where things joyous,

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we're only here to find our joy.

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You know, we all think we may have

a big mission, but you know, it's

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only from inspiration and joy.

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If it's inspirational and it's joyful,

it's definitely on the right path.

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Um, so it's go back to that.

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Just find your joy.

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Stop struggling with the struggle.

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That's what I would do.

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As I begin to go, okay, just walk

away from it, stop struggling

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with the struggle, find some joy,

maybe sit and be quiet, and wait

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to do it again when I'm inspired.

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Can you remember, well we all remember

times when we're really inspired, you

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know, I came back from Holland after

doing a teacher course, teacher training

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course, a spiritual healing and, you know.

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I've got to do the next course,

so I come back from Holland.

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I need to fly back by the next day

because my inspiration was I've

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got to do the children course.

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I have to.

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That's where we're working from.

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Actually, you've got to be there, right?

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So, um, so that's when you just let

go and wait till you're inspired.

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So just, just around the services that

you offer, um, you offer readings.

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Do you have a channel or, you know, how,

how do you work with one on one clients?

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Is it, as you say, you, you read their

energy and, and things, but how, is there

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a process that you particularly follow or?

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I tend to bring in the design, my

guide, um, I tend to, with permission,

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do the scan of the person to see,

I'm asking what do they need?

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I mean, basically, why did

they come in the first place?

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So, what goals do they

want me to get from it?

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And then.

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obviously through the guides, through

their true self, their spiritual self,

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what else is needed on the spiritual

sense, because we don't always know

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what we need on a spiritual sense.

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However, with muscle testing and pendulum

using to get the yeses and noes, it's

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building that understanding of where

they're at and where they want to get to.

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So I work very closely, well I work

constantly in the presence of the

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divine and the guides to give me the

wisdom, but also checking in with

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my client to see if it's relevant.

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And it, you know, I only, it's only

always relevant to the client, if it's

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not, then we wouldn't do anything, and

the client would always know, so it's

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a process of getting to understand,

obviously I've only given what I needed

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from guides, sometimes it's symbolism,

sometimes they never tell me the

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story, but it's a symbolic, you know.

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You know, you have a trauma in your, in

your heart, for example, you're carrying

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weight on your shoulders where a lot

of people carry their Burdens because

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I've never dealt with them and you saw

I can't have time to deal with that

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and they just carry on So it's about

It's about using whatever I'm given

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from the Divine, from my guides to,

from the client to work with and making

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sure that we're all on the same page.

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And I do trance, I do do trance

channeling, but I tend, if somebody

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wanted that, they could, but I tend to

work more in an interaction with the

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guides, with the client to make sure we're

getting to the, You know, the best thing

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we could do for anybody is get to be the

spiritual being in the human existence.

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Viewing it from the viewpoint of

the divine or from the guides.

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You know, being less attached or not

attached to the outcome of things and

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just living in this moment of joy.

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That's the joyous place of all.

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Would we be living in this harmony,

you know, and we always go back

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to, oh, I've got to do this, got to

do this, got to do this, you know,

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and are we really in the moment?

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And, um, so yes, so it's

always the intention.

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to bring them more spiritual

alongside whatever they want to do.

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But I couldn't influence anything unless

they wanted it because of their choice.

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Their choice is that I say, well,

would you really like to know what

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it feels like to live in the moment?

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And practice in, you know, I might do

it straight away, that'd be awesome.

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Um, but it would also be that

they would sign up to that.

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Yes, I would like to know what it

feels like to start being present and

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recognizing my guides and following

my guides and being in the moment.

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That makes sense.

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again.

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Yeah.

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Um, so do you bring things

like, like Theta into your work?

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Do you, do your work with healing

as well as, um, Is, is it kind of a

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coaching session, a one on one session?

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How, yeah, how do the sessions, yeah,

are they coaching, are they healing,

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are they whatever turns up, basically?

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It's probably a bit of all

of it, whatever turns up.

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Spirit normally show up and it is healing

from the past, past lives, past traumas,

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ancestral healing for your families.

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Um, it's also about, you know,

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Connection to the spirit, to the

true self, to the guides, definitely.

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So healing, if there's any

messages that need to be said,

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you know, messages will be said.

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But mainly it's about clearing

your pathway so you can

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see a very clear pathway.

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Uh, on your journey, um, and clearing

what you need to clear, you know, if

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it's uh, you've come because you're not

very clear communicating with your guide,

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so it'd be making sure that you find a

way of communicating with your guide.

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But equally, all around that, there'll

be lots of healing needed for that.

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There might have been a fear somewhere,

there might have been a past life trauma

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where you felt you were too powerful,

so you're scared of your powers in

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this lifetime, um, or you felt you

were harmed because of your healing

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or, or your connection to your guide.

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So, there's so many different

scenarios and stories that could

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stop you being completely free.

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free and open with your guides.

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And it's about uncovering those.

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So it's healing, guidance,

coaching, guides coming in.

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I mean, I don't do the healing.

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I engage the divine, the spirit,

the guides to do the healing.

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I'm just a very good conduit

to intuitively see what's there

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and hear my guides to what needs

clearing, to then work with the

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client to identify it and clear it.

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You also, um, run training courses.

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Yeah.

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How does the training course work?

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And there's two ways, ah, yeah,

there's a few ways, we could do a

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small group together, either, where

we, you know, have six or twelve

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people, or even less than that, you

know, it's um, how interactive you like

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it with other, with other students.

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And we go through, um, depending

where you're at in your spiritual

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path, about two, three days to,

two days would definitely get you

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connecting, doing the healings yourself.

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There's a third day if you

wanted a bit more in depth.

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Um, always, there's one to

one where I could teach you.

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Um, so there's lots of

methods and ways to learn.

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It's just whatever really

suits the individual.

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Right, so it's very bespoke, really.

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It is, yes, because I can teach a group

of 10 to 20 or I can teach a group of two.

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Um, obviously, uh, there's more

interaction when you get to 20 so you'd

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probably definitely need the free days.

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Because there's a lot more

interaction where if it's two to six,

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you'd probably do it in two days.

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So it's nice for little groups of people

that, you know, you've got a bunch of

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friends where you're growing spiritually.

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You think, oh, it'd be lovely just to have

a little bit more in depth connecting to

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our guides, clearing sessions, clearing

all the old trauma that we've carried in

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past life, and then that's a nice intimate

group that you can move forward quickly.

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It's a real boost to move you forward.

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Brilliant, brilliant.

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Um, just a question that I'm, I'm sure.

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People listening might

ask is, how safe is this?

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Do you, is there a possibility

of bringing in sort of negative

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entities or negative energy?

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No.

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I mean, I have had clients and great

nieces and nephews that come to see if

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they've brought in a negative energy.

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But if you're working with a divine energy

and your true spiritual energy, And you've

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got a gatekeeper, which is a spiritual

guide, and you've got all that protection.

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Nothing, nothing will flow into

that space, because it's too pure.

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It's like, you know, your

guides are protecting you.

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If you've got the spiritual

guides all around you, nothing

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bad is going to get into you.

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: 00:28:45

So it's making sure that, and it's one

of the things we do, is make sure that

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your guides are obviously proper guides.

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And if anybody does have an attachment

or negativity of some sort, then

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Or lost soul somewhere, we can ask

for that to go to the light so we

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can just pass over to the light.

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So it is very safe and because you're

working in a high energy with your own

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protection, your own guidance system.

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And if you do have any negative

attachments, just ask your own guides

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to come down and start clearing

it away and don't listen to it.

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Got it.

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That's powerful.

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And if you do know, sorry, if you do

know it's a negative spirit, your true

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spirit wouldn't tell you anything.

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That's not really from the highest

perspective, if you know what I mean.

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They would only give you

advice from a God sense.

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Right.

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: 00:29:46

Um, so sometimes, um, this, this is sort

of things that I've heard very recently.

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Um, if you have a negative, say a negative

attachment and it keeps you very much in

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a internal dialogue of, of negativity,

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um, How, what's the best way of, it's a

difficult one of knowing whether that's

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just your negative dialogue or whether it

is something that's kind of beyond that.

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I think there's two ways again.

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For one there is our mind, we're

not our minds, we're not our

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body, we're only pure spirit.

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So, we do have the monkeys in our mind

that keep going na na na na na na na

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na na na na and they're just monkeys.

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You've got to shut them up

and just tell them to shut up.

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However you want to tell them to shut up,

just ask them to be quiet and shut up.

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But it's also, if there is a spiritual

negative doubt in there, or one,

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you could find somebody like me to

ask it to be returned to the light.

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You could also get your own archangel,

your own true self, your own guardian

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angel, or even Archangel Michael

to ask for the clearing for it.

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And if it is, if it is this negative

thought, just don't listen to them.

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Because there is a difference between

how your true spiritual guide would

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speak to you and how a negative entity

would speak to you, or a negative

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thought train, or a negative pattern.

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Like, so whenever we get into a

negative pattern, it's just a pattern.

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Whenever we get into a negative

thought pattern, it's just a

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thought pattern, it's not a reality.

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The only reality is that we are true

spirit and we're, you know, we're

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experiencing in this human form

that we are inhabiting this body.

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That's the truth, but obviously we've

got a mind that we don't take, you know,

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it's just the machine doing its thing.

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: 00:31:51

We've probably learned coping

mechanisms with our brain.

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So it's about, yeah, just don't

listen and just ask it to be quiet.

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And then find something positive to

do to reinforce that, like even listen

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to the words of a meditation or listen

to a song verse or sing a song or

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do something that stops the chatter.

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So, you know, interrupt it.

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So how do you know that

you're talking to a guide?

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You said they've got a

very different voice.

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Well, I would always listen

to what they're telling you.

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So, If you put your hand on your heart and

I set the intention to open your heart and

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then you say I wish my spiritual guide,

my guardian angel, to come down, my true

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self, to answer this question for me.

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Just allow the question,

the answers to unfold.

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Don't expect, oh you've got to do

it that way because that's probably

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the negative sport train or the

negative entity or the negativity.

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Just allow.

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it to be answered in, in

a more loving kind of way.

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So you may not get the answer.

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In fact, it'd be good if you could, you

know, say, um, guides, help me with this.

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problem and just let go of the outcome

and then just go about your business.

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So you're not putting so much

expectation on an immediate answer

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and allow the answer to show up.

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Because you don't go with any

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of that attachment.

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Yes, because you're not, not, not,

we're not all in tune, especially for

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myself, I've been great for other people.

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When I ask my own question, I

want to get an answer, you know,

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that's not going to happen.

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: 00:33:49

Um, but equally, it's about, I'm

very, I'm very good at hearing

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the messages they want me to hear.

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: 00:33:57

But if I put, if I put a prayer in

motion and I've asked, um, my guides

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to help me with something, it's

definitely about just letting go of it.

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Trust that they've now got it in hand

and they're going to work it out.

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It's not an immediate answer, it

could be, it depends how in tune

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you are of hearing your guides.

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: 00:34:18

But then you'll go, is it my guides?

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: 00:34:20

Isn't my bad negative thought trains?

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: 00:34:22

Is it a negative end?

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: 00:34:23

You know what I mean?

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: 00:34:24

Once you get into that mind boggle.

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: 00:34:27

Yeah.

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: 00:34:27

Um, so it's just trust they

will find the answer to you.

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: 00:34:36

And meditations.

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: 00:34:37

You mentioned meditations.

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: 00:34:39

Uh, you have some guided

meditations, don't you?

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: 00:34:42

Do you do a lot of those yourself?

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: 00:34:46

Um, I do some.

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: 00:34:47

I need to, well, could do better,

as my school report used to say.

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: 00:34:51

I've got more to do.

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: 00:34:54

Um, but it's, you know, it's more

of a when you're in it with a,

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: 00:34:58

um, a client you can sort of then

do bespoke ones to that person.

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: 00:35:03

But there's so many on YouTube.

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: 00:35:05

But the meditation, it's one

way of just focusing on somebody

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: 00:35:10

else's voice as it's guided.

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: 00:35:13

to allow you to come

back to that stillness.

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: 00:35:15

I mean a really good one you can say

for yourself is, you know, especially

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: 00:35:19

if you've got a negative thought train

going on, you can say I'm not my mind,

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I'm not my body, I'm pure spirit.

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: 00:35:25

I'm not my mind, I'm not

my body, I'm pure spirit.

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: 00:35:28

And anything to do like a mantra or

bring you back to the now or bring

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: 00:35:33

you back to now is like I'm safe, I'm

warm, I'm comfortable, I have plenty of

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: 00:35:39

feelings, I have my home, whatever it is.

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: 00:35:42

And it just brings you back

to that sense of comfort.

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: 00:35:45

So when you do a meditation, there are

so many on YouTube, it's finding the

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right voice that works, the right burst

you need and, but it is a good thing

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: 00:35:54

to do to just calm yourself right down.

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: 00:35:59

Yeah.

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: 00:35:59

I mean the ones I've got

on my channel on water.

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: 00:36:02

you know, stop the mind shatter

and bring you back into the present

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: 00:36:07

moment and connect you actually.

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: 00:36:09

There's one for connecting you to your own

divine intelligence, your own guides, and

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: 00:36:13

they're three really good tools for you

to use just to come calm your mind down.

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: 00:36:18

And

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: 00:36:21

are those available on your website?

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: 00:36:25

They're on my YouTube channel, but

I will put a link on my website.

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: 00:36:32

Okay, brilliant.

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: 00:36:34

I've put all of those in the show

notes anyway, if anyone wants them.

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: 00:36:41

You were mentioning, is it more

difficult, do you find it more difficult

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to work with for yourself and get

messages for yourself than you do

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: 00:36:52

when you're working with other people.

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: 00:36:54

Is it, is it kind of more difficult

to detach if that makes sense?

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: 00:36:58

It definitely is more difficult

to detach, um, because you, it is.

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: 00:37:05

I think it's because obviously I know

myself and I connect to the divine, but

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: 00:37:10

I, as I've gone along I've got better

at just detach, send a prayer out

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: 00:37:14

there and I detach from the outcome.

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: 00:37:18

I trust that the divine my guide.

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: 00:37:20

Truth, self, everybody's got my

question and they're doing all their

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: 00:37:25

best to answer it in the best way.

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: 00:37:27

So it's definitely more difficult for

yourself, um, but for other people

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: 00:37:32

obviously I just get it so quickly,

the information just comes in because

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: 00:37:37

I, I have no attachment to it.

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: 00:37:40

So when you're attached to it you

could, you know, um, so that's

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: 00:37:44

why it's so much easier working

with other people than yourself.

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: 00:37:49

But equally the more confidence

you get in sending a prayer and

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: 00:37:52

don't try and answer it yourself.

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: 00:37:55

Then, you know, you know what it's

like, we ask Dear Divine or Dear

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: 00:37:58

Spirit Guide, help me find a new job.

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: 00:38:00

And then we go scrambling around all the

internet looking for a job, when actually

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: 00:38:04

the right job will present itself at

the right time through a, Oh, you're

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: 00:38:08

inspired to look one day or something

comes through the door or whatever.

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: 00:38:14

Yeah.

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: 00:38:16

And how do, sorry, there's various ways

of working with you, there's the courses

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: 00:38:21

and there's the one to one sessions.

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: 00:38:24

How long are the one to one

sessions or is there a course?

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A group of one.

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Nomi and Lance, how do you work with them?

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: 00:38:31

Yeah, Nomi's put about eight in the

diary, um, for a group of, um, a block

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: 00:38:37

of eight, which is a really nice number

to, and they're about an hour, an hour

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: 00:38:41

and a half each, so we've got plenty

of time to, you know, uncover where

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we're at, see where you're going,

what, what, what people really want.

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Um, and then I do them in the period is

whatever suits the client because some

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people have a busy schedule and they can,

they, when they take a long time to absorb

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: 00:39:01

all what's happened in a session because

you get so much in a session, it's like,

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: 00:39:05

well, you know, it's like, how do I, I

just want to let all that settle in, you

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: 00:39:10

know, the changes are taking place, the

healing's been done, et cetera, et cetera.

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So some people have once a

week, some people have once a

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fortnight, some people have.

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Every few days if I want

to really, I want to get.

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I want to be here.

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I'm over here and I want to get over here.

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: 00:39:26

I want to get really, you know, a big

jump in my spiritual growth and then

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I want to practice all those tools.

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Because it is about practicing all

those tools that every time we get

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: 00:39:36

out of the moment we use that mantra

to bring us back to the moment.

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You know, I'm safe, I'm

warm, I'm comfortable.

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: 00:39:43

And it's all about remembering

like your brain's going on and on.

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You're not your mind, you're not

your body, you're pure spirit

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: 00:39:49

coming back to know that actually

I'm just spirit, you know.

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It's my pain in my leg, I'm not my leg.

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: 00:39:56

So, those tools, it's good, you know, so

they need to practice some tools, so it's

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: 00:40:01

really dependent on the client's, uh,

schedules and how much absorption time

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: 00:40:07

they like and practice time they need.

627

: 00:40:10

It's never ending, isn't it?

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: 00:40:11

Getting to our spiritual destination.

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True.

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: 00:40:18

And, um, how do people book with you?

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Is that just through your website or?

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: 00:40:26

Yeah, an email from my website or call me

on my phone number that's on my website.

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: 00:40:31

Um, any way like that or recommendation

for a friend and reach out to me

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: 00:40:35

through WhatsApp or text message.

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: 00:40:40

Brilliant, brilliant.

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: 00:40:43

And if, if you had one piece of

advice for someone really wanting

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to connect and maybe for the first

time and maybe they're a little bit

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: 00:40:51

fearful, um, what would that advice be?

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Help me set the intention

to open your heart.

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And ask your spirit guide to come in and

guide you to the right person you need

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: 00:41:06

to help you on your spiritual growth.

642

: 00:41:09

And then if you get inspiration to

work with somebody, then you go for it.

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: 00:41:18

Brilliant.

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: 00:41:19

And is there anything else that

you would like to, to share today?

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Just that, do that anyway.

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: 00:41:30

Just open your heart, set the

intention to bring in your guide and

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: 00:41:35

say, help me on my spiritual journey.

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: 00:41:40

To help support you,

just open up to spirit.

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: 00:41:44

Spirit is there.

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: 00:41:44

We're a spiritual being in a

human existence, not a human

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: 00:41:49

being in a human existence.

652

: 00:41:51

And the more we come home to spirit,

it's exactly where we need to be.

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: 00:41:55

Just back to spirit.

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: 00:41:58

Having this life the best way possible,

as in, enjoy, because we are coming

655

: 00:42:04

back to who we truly are, what we

came before in the first place, having

656

: 00:42:09

a joyous spiritual being, being a

spiritual being in a human existence,

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: 00:42:14

having fun, so start connecting.

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: 00:42:21

And that, um, that mention of joy, I,

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: 00:42:27

on my spiritual journey, I've, I've, I've,

I've I hear it because it's everywhere.

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: 00:42:31

You know, it's um, if you listen to Esther

Hicks, it's about coming back to joy.

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: 00:42:38

And what I found was that I'd heard it so

often, I wasn't really taking it on board.

662

: 00:42:44

It's only recently that I've truly got

what that means in terms of, um, that's

663

: 00:42:50

kind of the frequency that you're where

everything, where you're attracting and

664

: 00:42:56

manifesting and you're in alignment.

665

: 00:43:00

And I, I know it's said, but I

don't think it's ever really said as

666

: 00:43:06

clearly as, as the fact that that's

really the frequency with where,

667

: 00:43:10

where magic happens, if you like.

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: 00:43:12

Yeah.

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: 00:43:15

It's a beautiful frequency to be in.

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: 00:43:16

If you can get in that moment.

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: 00:43:18

Know your connectives, set the

intentions, open your heart, bring

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: 00:43:22

in the spiritual energy through you,

because it is you, then joy can really

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: 00:43:27

happen and the magic does happen.

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: 00:43:31

Royal.

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: 00:43:33

Because being a logical person myself,

I do tend to push more than, even though

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: 00:43:38

I do use intuition, once I've got the

intuition then I tend to push, so it's

677

: 00:43:42

that, really recognizing that actually

if you, if you step back and enjoy

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: 00:43:47

it, that it makes a big difference.

679

: 00:43:48

I mean, that's one of the

reasons I, I kind of do it.

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: 00:43:50

I chose the Choosing Happy podcast

because that was my biggest learning,

681

: 00:43:55

that we choose how we feel in the

moment and if we can choose to be

682

: 00:44:01

joyful irrespective of what's happening

and sometimes it's difficult, but

683

: 00:44:05

that's where the magic happens.

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: 00:44:09

It is.

685

: 00:44:10

Exactly.

686

: 00:44:11

Perfect.

687

: 00:44:12

It's exactly choosing that happiness.

688

: 00:44:14

Nobody has the right to change

how we feel about ourselves.

689

: 00:44:18

As we zoom out and think we're little

spiritual beings on our little spiritual

690

: 00:44:21

journey and when we go home we're going to

look at our lives and go well we had some

691

: 00:44:26

ups and downs but we were always joyous.

692

: 00:44:28

You know, we know we haven't been.

693

: 00:44:29

We know we've been at the struggles

of our lives when we had the kids

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: 00:44:32

and there were jobs and the trauma.

695

: 00:44:35

But when we can really zoom out

and just go back to that happiness,

696

: 00:44:38

that joy, and actually, wow,

we're spirit in a human existence.

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: 00:44:41

What a fun place, right?

698

: 00:44:45

Yeah.

699

: 00:44:46

Yeah, and if you're logical,

you're not your brain.

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: 00:44:54

Yeah, yeah.

701

: 00:44:55

Which dog do I feed, as they say?

702

: 00:44:58

Yes, exactly.

703

: 00:45:02

Well, thank you so much.

704

: 00:45:04

This has been absolutely amazing.

705

: 00:45:07

It's been really insightful.

706

: 00:45:09

So, thank you for taking

the time today and sharing.

707

: 00:45:14

Thank you.

708

: 00:45:15

And lovely, lovely connecting you again.

709

: 00:45:20

And, uh, I'm sure we'll switch again soon.

710

: 00:45:22

Thanks.

711

: 00:45:23

Bye for now.

712

: 00:45:25

Bye.

713

: 00:45:27

HeatherV: Thank you so much for taking

the time to listen to this week's episode.

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: 00:45:31

If you enjoyed it or think it would be

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: 00:45:36

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: 00:45:39

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: 00:45:41

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: 00:45:44

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